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	<title>Comments on: Gaza, Al Jazeera and Information Democracy</title>
	<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/</link>
	<description>Giorgio Maone's answers to the Web, the Universe, and Everything</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10655</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Gaza and the issue of proportional response:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&#34;Article 51 of the UN Charter is quite clear that any nation has the right to engage in self-defense against armed attack. The response has indeed to satisfy the principle of proportionality. But it is not correct to claim that Israel has violated that principle by killing more Hamas terrorists than the number of Israelis killed by Hamas rockets. There is no legal equivalence between the deliberate killing of civilians, which is what Hamas is doing by lobbing its rockets into Israeli cities without strategic significance, and the targeted killing of Hamas militants. The law is clear that any number of combatants can be killed to prevent the killing of even one innocent civilian.&#34;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Read more here: http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_114.html?emc=el&#38;m=1890259&#38;l=19&#38;v=73ddd2c6e4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Gaza and the issue of proportional response:</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;Article 51 of the UN Charter is quite clear that any nation has the right to engage in self-defense against armed attack. The response has indeed to satisfy the principle of proportionality. But it is not correct to claim that Israel has violated that principle by killing more Hamas terrorists than the number of Israelis killed by Hamas rockets. There is no legal equivalence between the deliberate killing of civilians, which is what Hamas is doing by lobbing its rockets into Israeli cities without strategic significance, and the targeted killing of Hamas militants. The law is clear that any number of combatants can be killed to prevent the killing of even one innocent civilian.&quot;</p></blockquote>
<p>Read more here: <a href="http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_114.html?emc=el&amp;m=1890259&amp;l=19&amp;v=73ddd2c6e4" rel="nofollow">http://www.factsandlogic.org/ad_114.html?emc=el&amp;m=1890259&amp;l=19&amp;v=73ddd2c6e4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10652</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;99% of the media and news outlets in the West are controlled by very few big corporations&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I used to think that too, until I began seeing the news with different eyes and considering some facts:

http://engram-backtalk.blogspot.com/search/label/Media%20Bias

@alexa kim: Thanks for the compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>99% of the media and news outlets in the West are controlled by very few big corporations</p></blockquote>
<p>I used to think that too, until I began seeing the news with different eyes and considering some facts:</p>
<p><a href="http://engram-backtalk.blogspot.com/search/label/Media%20Bias" rel="nofollow">http://engram-backtalk.blogspot.com/search/label/Media%20Bias</a></p>
<p>@alexa kim: Thanks for the compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: alexa kim</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10616</link>
		<dc:creator>alexa kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10616</guid>
		<description>[My apologies, there is a typo in my comment above, of Giorgio's name. My proofer is not very good but then again, she works for free, so....]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[My apologies, there is a typo in my comment above, of Giorgio&#8217;s name. My proofer is not very good but then again, she works for free, so&#8230;.]</p>
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		<title>By: alexa kim</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10615</link>
		<dc:creator>alexa kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10615</guid>
		<description>I am a visitor who likes to read the latest in computing in general and scripts specifically due to security concerns while I travel the interwebs. 

I find this particular topic fascinating because no matter what blog I visit, regardless of its expressed purpose, if it posts anything concerning politics, and even more especially about Israel and the Palestinians, the comments section is disproportionately larger than that on other posts. We humans feel certain things very deeply.

The exchange between the host, Giogio, and Peter Reaper, is in action with different actors all over the globe. However, few of those productions come close to the level of citation and point-counterpoint that I've read here, which is a compliment.

I won't opine further except to say only this: Based on careful reading of numerous news sources, and the operative word is &#34;careful,&#34; representing the range of political bents they each might acknowledge or deny, and placing the digest of those readings in with the numerous other reports collected over the decades that I have lived, I have concluded that only one solution is viable: 

Remove the Judeo-Christian holy sites from their original location, transplant them to Juneau, Alaska. Offer anyplace in Montana to the Israelis to colonize. The Arabians and Palestinians keep their desert and Medina and Mecca. 

Then watch how fast Hamas and the rest pick a fight with someone new because their favorite whipping boy is no longer around. 

So long as anyone, and I mean anyone, continues to refer to the Israelis as &#34;Nazis&#34; they will find in me nothing but antipathy. Forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a visitor who likes to read the latest in computing in general and scripts specifically due to security concerns while I travel the interwebs. </p>
<p>I find this particular topic fascinating because no matter what blog I visit, regardless of its expressed purpose, if it posts anything concerning politics, and even more especially about Israel and the Palestinians, the comments section is disproportionately larger than that on other posts. We humans feel certain things very deeply.</p>
<p>The exchange between the host, Giogio, and Peter Reaper, is in action with different actors all over the globe. However, few of those productions come close to the level of citation and point-counterpoint that I&#8217;ve read here, which is a compliment.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t opine further except to say only this: Based on careful reading of numerous news sources, and the operative word is &quot;careful,&quot; representing the range of political bents they each might acknowledge or deny, and placing the digest of those readings in with the numerous other reports collected over the decades that I have lived, I have concluded that only one solution is viable: </p>
<p>Remove the Judeo-Christian holy sites from their original location, transplant them to Juneau, Alaska. Offer anyplace in Montana to the Israelis to colonize. The Arabians and Palestinians keep their desert and Medina and Mecca. </p>
<p>Then watch how fast Hamas and the rest pick a fight with someone new because their favorite whipping boy is no longer around. </p>
<p>So long as anyone, and I mean anyone, continues to refer to the Israelis as &quot;Nazis&quot; they will find in me nothing but antipathy. Forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10554</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10554</guid>
		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Stephano&lt;/b&gt;:
thanks for the link.
Regarding ReCaptcha, it works if you either have both the main site and recaptcha.net allowed or both forbidden. It doesn't work in mixed mode because of a ReCaptcha limitation. I'll update the comment template to hint users about this ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Stephano</b>:<br />
thanks for the link.<br />
Regarding ReCaptcha, it works if you either have both the main site and recaptcha.net allowed or both forbidden. It doesn&#8217;t work in mixed mode because of a ReCaptcha limitation. I&#8217;ll update the comment template to hint users about this ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephano</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10553</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10553</guid>
		<description>A little Q&#38;A for you:

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20269


@ Giorgio...
When JavaScript is disabled on your site, I didn't know whether I needed to enable to be able fill out the captcha.  You seemed trustworthing, though. ;)  Maybe a nosource tip?  Dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little Q&amp;A for you:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20269" rel="nofollow">http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20269</a></p>
<p>@ Giorgio&#8230;<br />
When JavaScript is disabled on your site, I didn&#8217;t know whether I needed to enable to be able fill out the captcha.  You seemed trustworthing, though. ;)  Maybe a nosource tip?  Dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10545</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10545</guid>
		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Peter Reaper&lt;/b&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
t’s nothing more than silencing dissent and "inconvenient truths".

We live in dangerous times, and it isn’t the Neo-Nazis, Jews, or Americans who are the threat. It’s Islam and their western appeasers (usually the Left).
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're in total blindness and deny.
99% of the media and news outlets in the West are controlled by very few big corporations, and "democratically elected" governments are just an emanation of those corporations which artificially forge the so called "public opinion". It's not Left or Right, it's just corporate interest. Neo-nazis (as ignorant young idiots), Americans (as a people) or Jews (as a people) are just a tool of corporate leaders.

Speaking of free speech: did you hear our current Italian fascist (in the historical right-wing sense, not just a label) government today announced &lt;strong&gt;a legislation forbidding &lt;em&gt;any kind&lt;/em&gt; of assembly in the vicinity of churches, public offices, &lt;em&gt;super-markets and shopping malls&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;? And do you know what's the &lt;strong&gt;official&lt;/strong&gt; pretest for this "urgent" decree, which is being applauded by both the "right-wing" majority and the "left-wing" opposition? Last week, during a pacific and authorized protest against the Gaza slaughter, some of the protesters (those of Islamic religion) went down to their knees and performed their prayer, mandatory for them at that time of the day, while being in a public square which was in front of a church. Now you know in Italy there are churches about everywhere, and that every single square, especially those big enough to contain an assembly, are built around a church. So, with the &lt;strong&gt;declared and popular intent&lt;/strong&gt; of preventing muslims from praying near catholic churches, the Italian government is taking away our constitutionally-granted freedoms: religion freedom explicitly, but most important, assembly freedom &lt;em&gt;for everyone&lt;/em&gt; (muslims, christians, jews, pastafarians, atheists), and ultimately freedom to dissent, which is the thing they fear most.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

-- &lt;a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller" rel="nofollow"&gt;Martin Niemöller, 1946&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Peter Reaper</b>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
t’s nothing more than silencing dissent and &#8220;inconvenient truths&#8221;.</p>
<p>We live in dangerous times, and it isn’t the Neo-Nazis, Jews, or Americans who are the threat. It’s Islam and their western appeasers (usually the Left).
</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re in total blindness and deny.<br />
99% of the media and news outlets in the West are controlled by very few big corporations, and &#8220;democratically elected&#8221; governments are just an emanation of those corporations which artificially forge the so called &#8220;public opinion&#8221;. It&#8217;s not Left or Right, it&#8217;s just corporate interest. Neo-nazis (as ignorant young idiots), Americans (as a people) or Jews (as a people) are just a tool of corporate leaders.</p>
<p>Speaking of free speech: did you hear our current Italian fascist (in the historical right-wing sense, not just a label) government today announced <strong>a legislation forbidding <em>any kind</em> of assembly in the vicinity of churches, public offices, <em>super-markets and shopping malls</em></strong>? And do you know what&#8217;s the <strong>official</strong> pretest for this &#8220;urgent&#8221; decree, which is being applauded by both the &#8220;right-wing&#8221; majority and the &#8220;left-wing&#8221; opposition? Last week, during a pacific and authorized protest against the Gaza slaughter, some of the protesters (those of Islamic religion) went down to their knees and performed their prayer, mandatory for them at that time of the day, while being in a public square which was in front of a church. Now you know in Italy there are churches about everywhere, and that every single square, especially those big enough to contain an assembly, are built around a church. So, with the <strong>declared and popular intent</strong> of preventing muslims from praying near catholic churches, the Italian government is taking away our constitutionally-granted freedoms: religion freedom explicitly, but most important, assembly freedom <em>for everyone</em> (muslims, christians, jews, pastafarians, atheists), and ultimately freedom to dissent, which is the thing they fear most.</p>
<blockquote><p>
When the Nazis came for the communists,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a communist.</p>
<p>When they locked up the social democrats,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a social democrat.</p>
<p>When they came for the trade unionists,<br />
I did not speak out;<br />
I was not a trade unionist.</p>
<p>When they came for the Jews,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I wasn&#8217;t a Jew.</p>
<p>When they came for me,<br />
there was no one left to speak out.</p>
<p>&#8211; <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller" rel="nofollow">Martin Niemöller, 1946</a>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10544</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10544</guid>
		<description>speaking of free speech: Did you hear that a European country is limiting free speech by redefining &lt;b&gt;the stating of facts in a captivating way&lt;/b&gt; as hate speech?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&#34;The Dutch judicial authorities are going to prosecute Geert Wilders, one of the 150 members of the Dutch Parliament, for making the movie Fitna.&#34;

More: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3757&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's nothing more than silencing dissent and &#34;inconvenient truths&#34;.

We live in dangerous times, and it isn't the Neo-Nazis, Jews, or Americans who are the threat. It's Islam and their western appeasers (usually the Left).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of free speech: Did you hear that a European country is limiting free speech by redefining <b>the stating of facts in a captivating way</b> as hate speech?</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;The Dutch judicial authorities are going to prosecute Geert Wilders, one of the 150 members of the Dutch Parliament, for making the movie Fitna.&quot;</p>
<p>More: <a href="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3757" rel="nofollow">http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3757</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing more than silencing dissent and &quot;inconvenient truths&quot;.</p>
<p>We live in dangerous times, and it isn&#8217;t the Neo-Nazis, Jews, or Americans who are the threat. It&#8217;s Islam and their western appeasers (usually the Left).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10543</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10543</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I willingly publish everything, no matter how distant from my views it is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And the world is a better place because of that. Thanks! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I willingly publish everything, no matter how distant from my views it is.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the world is a better place because of that. Thanks! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10542</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2009/01/15/gaza-al-jazeera-and-information-democracy/#comment-10542</guid>
		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Peter Reaper&lt;/b&gt;:
There's no automatic "delay". 
All comments are manually moderated by myself, because this site receives literally tons of spam (notwithstanding ReCaptcha and the Bad Behavior plugin). As you can see, spam aside, I &lt;em&gt;willingly&lt;/em&gt; publish everything, no matter how distant from my views it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Peter Reaper</b>:<br />
There&#8217;s no automatic &#8220;delay&#8221;.<br />
All comments are manually moderated by myself, because this site receives literally tons of spam (notwithstanding ReCaptcha and the Bad Behavior plugin). As you can see, spam aside, I <em>willingly</em> publish everything, no matter how distant from my views it is.</p>
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