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	<title>Comments on: Lost in Translation (ASP&#8217;s HomoXSSuality)</title>
	<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/</link>
	<description>Giorgio Maone's answers to the Web, the Universe, and Everything</description>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-24004</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-24004</guid>
		<description>What I want to know is, does it work on eunuchs?  Actually, I'm just irritated with the comments that tell you you must grovel and slobber for the pressure group.  It's gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is, does it work on eunuchs?  Actually, I&#8217;m just irritated with the comments that tell you you must grovel and slobber for the pressure group.  It&#8217;s gay.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonymousCoward</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23914</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonymousCoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23914</guid>
		<description>Jo Blow, you can have those obsessive, twisted trigger images given the perspective of kindness and humanity that no church is able to provide.
The fear and loathing is so bad that even your nick has to be a sad pun on the mechanics of sexual activity. The fear you display is so strong that it's not at all unexpected that you would be in such denial. Phobias are cureable.  Seek help.

Maone's pun has context, playfulness and several layers of meaning that have nix all to do with any kind of specific sexual activity.  And all that from someone whose first language isn't English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo Blow, you can have those obsessive, twisted trigger images given the perspective of kindness and humanity that no church is able to provide.<br />
The fear and loathing is so bad that even your nick has to be a sad pun on the mechanics of sexual activity. The fear you display is so strong that it&#8217;s not at all unexpected that you would be in such denial. Phobias are cureable.  Seek help.</p>
<p>Maone&#8217;s pun has context, playfulness and several layers of meaning that have nix all to do with any kind of specific sexual activity.  And all that from someone whose first language isn&#8217;t English.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamuse</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23910</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23910</guid>
		<description>Giorgio - that was just an example dude. You obviously need to apply it properly in each specific instance. For example, you shouldn't need a newline in a first name field, but you may in an address field. Thus the potential valid characters for each might be different (unless you have numbers in your first name). You can easily chain several rules together for each specific input field to ensure that all valid characters are accepted. This requires a deep understanding of each parameter accepted by the application. My point was just that ModSecurity (and I'm not talking about the Core Rule Set, just the ModSecurity rules language) has the flexibility to deal with this. Having said that, this was an awesome discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giorgio - that was just an example dude. You obviously need to apply it properly in each specific instance. For example, you shouldn&#8217;t need a newline in a first name field, but you may in an address field. Thus the potential valid characters for each might be different (unless you have numbers in your first name). You can easily chain several rules together for each specific input field to ensure that all valid characters are accepted. This requires a deep understanding of each parameter accepted by the application. My point was just that ModSecurity (and I&#8217;m not talking about the Core Rule Set, just the ModSecurity rules language) has the flexibility to deal with this. Having said that, this was an awesome discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23889</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23889</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href="http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23880" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jamuse&lt;/a&gt;:
Jamuse: your rule will break any internationalized web app (plus those who should accept tabs and newline chars in their input, like... any blog?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23880" rel="nofollow">Jamuse</a>:<br />
Jamuse: your rule will break any internationalized web app (plus those who should accept tabs and newline chars in their input, like&#8230; any blog?).</p>
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		<title>By: Jamuse</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23880</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23880</guid>
		<description>FWIW, ModSecurity can protect against this via the following rule which limits valid characters based on their byte range:

SecRule ARGS&#124;ARGS_NAMES&#124;REQUEST_FILENAME&#124;REQUEST_HEADERS_NAMES&#124;REQUEST_HEADERS&#124;!REQUEST_HEADERS:Referer&#34;@validateByteRange 32-126&#34; &#34;t:none,t:urlDecodeUni, \
  deny,log,auditlog,msg:'Invalid characters detected'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, ModSecurity can protect against this via the following rule which limits valid characters based on their byte range:</p>
<p>SecRule ARGS|ARGS_NAMES|REQUEST_FILENAME|REQUEST_HEADERS_NAMES|REQUEST_HEADERS|!REQUEST_HEADERS:Referer&quot;@validateByteRange 32-126&quot; &quot;t:none,t:urlDecodeUni, \<br />
  deny,log,auditlog,msg:&#8217;Invalid characters detected&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: EnoughOfTheF*ggotry</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23878</link>
		<dc:creator>EnoughOfTheF*ggotry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23878</guid>
		<description>This article is good. M$ bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is good. M$ bad.</p>
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		<title>By: lolfags</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23876</link>
		<dc:creator>lolfags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23876</guid>
		<description>Doesn't the bible state that any man who sleeps with another man should be put to death?  Yet Joe Blows states that fags are religious?  Hmmm.  God hates fags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the bible state that any man who sleeps with another man should be put to death?  Yet Joe Blows states that fags are religious?  Hmmm.  God hates fags.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23874</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23874</guid>
		<description>@&lt;a href="http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23867" rel="nofollow"&gt;Joe Blow&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;That is a fact, based both in nature and nurture&lt;/blockquote&gt;
"Nature" is often abused as an excuse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23867" rel="nofollow">Joe Blow</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>That is a fact, based both in nature and nurture</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Nature&#8221; is often abused as an excuse:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blow</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23867</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23867</guid>
		<description>Well, Giorgio - Did you wet your finger and hold it up to gauge which way the wind was currently blowing before you decided to deride my &#34;childish&#34; pun (&#34;anal-yze&#34;)? You were the one who sparked off this whole ass-inine (get it? ;P) exchange by coining the term &#34;HomoXSSuality&#34;, which, I have little doubt, you knew implied the attachment of a critical or derisive connotation to &#34;homosexuality&#34;. 
Furthermore -- don't even attempt to extrapolatively affix some kind of persecutionality to me or my attitudes -- which you know almost nothing about, except the fact that I think the term &#34;homophobic&#34; is puerile, and am quite disdainful of those who can't focus their minds, their passions, and their argumentative thrusts precisely enough to stay sufficiently coherent so as to refrain from tagging anyone who points out the fact that homosexual practices like buggery and fellatio, etc., are repellant to most non-homosexuals with such an epithet. 
You can NOT infer from my earlier post any of the negativity you seem to want to attribute to me pertaining to persecution of homosexuals, and the like. What I was saying was that the term &#34;homophobic&#34; is predominantly used pejoritavely (and incorrectly, as pointed out by AnonymousCoward: &#34;...the &#34;homo&#34; part of homosexuality is... the Greek &#34;homos&#34; meaning &#34;same&#34;) by those who feel over-weeningly righteous in assuming a politically-correct posture in defense of homosexuals. 
Last year, I signed an online petition demanding that any form of persecution or restriction of constitutional rights of homosexuals in the US be added to the federal list of hate crimes. I think consenting adults should be left entirely alone, when it comes to their private lives - in all ways. I couldn't care less, one way or another, who does whom, and in what way. That still doesn't change the fact that &#34;normal&#34; people -- meaning those who belong to the statistically predominant group in our society, based on their attitudes and/or behavior -- tend to feel rather disgusted when they think of men sucking each other off or screwing other dudes in the ass (with the corresponding acts pertaining to women making them queasy, as well). That is a fact, based both in nature and nurture. I didn't cook that up, I've simply made note of it, over the decades, and stated it here. 
If one feels that it is incumbent on them to try to alter their own &#34;instinct&#34;, or their indoctrination, in order to more closely conform to what they perceive to be a more ethical or humane outlook - more power to them. That is strictly personal. Just keep your sophomoric &#34;homophobe&#34; appellation to yourself, and stop labelling others you poorly know or understand with such a childish term. 
So -- get off your high horse, and deal with what I've expressed as a personal opinion... and don't you dare try to make me out to be some fucking queer-hating villain. I have no doubt that God loves fags and dykes just as much as anyone else: we are all spiritual beings and were created out of divine love. So stick that in your pipe and fire it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Giorgio - Did you wet your finger and hold it up to gauge which way the wind was currently blowing before you decided to deride my &quot;childish&quot; pun (&quot;anal-yze&quot;)? You were the one who sparked off this whole ass-inine (get it? ;P) exchange by coining the term &quot;HomoXSSuality&quot;, which, I have little doubt, you knew implied the attachment of a critical or derisive connotation to &quot;homosexuality&quot;.<br />
Furthermore &#8212; don&#8217;t even attempt to extrapolatively affix some kind of persecutionality to me or my attitudes &#8212; which you know almost nothing about, except the fact that I think the term &quot;homophobic&quot; is puerile, and am quite disdainful of those who can&#8217;t focus their minds, their passions, and their argumentative thrusts precisely enough to stay sufficiently coherent so as to refrain from tagging anyone who points out the fact that homosexual practices like buggery and fellatio, etc., are repellant to most non-homosexuals with such an epithet.<br />
You can NOT infer from my earlier post any of the negativity you seem to want to attribute to me pertaining to persecution of homosexuals, and the like. What I was saying was that the term &quot;homophobic&quot; is predominantly used pejoritavely (and incorrectly, as pointed out by AnonymousCoward: &quot;&#8230;the &quot;homo&quot; part of homosexuality is&#8230; the Greek &quot;homos&quot; meaning &quot;same&quot;) by those who feel over-weeningly righteous in assuming a politically-correct posture in defense of homosexuals.<br />
Last year, I signed an online petition demanding that any form of persecution or restriction of constitutional rights of homosexuals in the US be added to the federal list of hate crimes. I think consenting adults should be left entirely alone, when it comes to their private lives - in all ways. I couldn&#8217;t care less, one way or another, who does whom, and in what way. That still doesn&#8217;t change the fact that &quot;normal&quot; people &#8212; meaning those who belong to the statistically predominant group in our society, based on their attitudes and/or behavior &#8212; tend to feel rather disgusted when they think of men sucking each other off or screwing other dudes in the ass (with the corresponding acts pertaining to women making them queasy, as well). That is a fact, based both in nature and nurture. I didn&#8217;t cook that up, I&#8217;ve simply made note of it, over the decades, and stated it here.<br />
If one feels that it is incumbent on them to try to alter their own &quot;instinct&quot;, or their indoctrination, in order to more closely conform to what they perceive to be a more ethical or humane outlook - more power to them. That is strictly personal. Just keep your sophomoric &quot;homophobe&quot; appellation to yourself, and stop labelling others you poorly know or understand with such a childish term.<br />
So &#8212; get off your high horse, and deal with what I&#8217;ve expressed as a personal opinion&#8230; and don&#8217;t you dare try to make me out to be some fucking queer-hating villain. I have no doubt that God loves fags and dykes just as much as anyone else: we are all spiritual beings and were created out of divine love. So stick that in your pipe and fire it up!</p>
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		<title>By: AnonymousCoward</title>
		<link>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23731</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonymousCoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hackademix.net/2010/08/17/lost-in-translation-asps-homoxssuality/#comment-23731</guid>
		<description>quoth Get a Clue:
&#34;You already knocked one knuckle-dragger out of the wood work, and you’re sure to get more.&#34;

Suggest Get a Clue could get a clue about the state of Italian society, like today.
Just an example:
http://www.queerty.com/why-is-romes-anti-gay-violence-continuing-like-an-all-night-circuit-party-20100607/

Maybe some people should just get used to seeing stuff that the Rapsinger calls bad a lot more.  Their phobias might be manageable with constant exposure to fear-triggers.  Other threads hosted here have shown that there is a very phobic, if small, subset of contributors that might benefit from even more desensitisation.

And while on the topic of misapprehensions about who fucks whom with what and how, I get so tired of the dumb misapprehension, evident in this thread, that the &#34;homo&#34; part of homosexuality is the Latin &#34;homo&#34; meaning &#34;man&#34;.  It's the Greek &#34;homos&#34; meaning &#34;same&#34;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quoth Get a Clue:<br />
&quot;You already knocked one knuckle-dragger out of the wood work, and you’re sure to get more.&quot;</p>
<p>Suggest Get a Clue could get a clue about the state of Italian society, like today.<br />
Just an example:<br />
<a href="http://www.queerty.com/why-is-romes-anti-gay-violence-continuing-like-an-all-night-circuit-party-20100607/" rel="nofollow">http://www.queerty.com/why-is-romes-anti-gay-violence-continuing-like-an-all-night-circuit-party-20100607/</a></p>
<p>Maybe some people should just get used to seeing stuff that the Rapsinger calls bad a lot more.  Their phobias might be manageable with constant exposure to fear-triggers.  Other threads hosted here have shown that there is a very phobic, if small, subset of contributors that might benefit from even more desensitisation.</p>
<p>And while on the topic of misapprehensions about who fucks whom with what and how, I get so tired of the dumb misapprehension, evident in this thread, that the &quot;homo&quot; part of homosexuality is the Latin &quot;homo&quot; meaning &quot;man&quot;.  It&#8217;s the Greek &quot;homos&quot; meaning &quot;same&quot;.</p>
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